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My name is Keith P. Stieneke


My name is Keith P. Stieneke and my name is all over the Internet due to my involvement in the home based business and network marketing industries. I have also previously published a print publication titled In The Spirit Of The Buffalo which featured the poetic works of several amateur and professional poets and short story writers.


I developed a website called In The Spirit of The Buffalo and the domain was hijacked by some conniving hackers. I have decided that setting up a forum for poets and people who like to write would be the most logical step in the evolution of helping poets and writers with their craft.


So once again welcome to these forums and I encourage you to read and to post and to search around the site. Thank you.


Keith



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Thanks for the invite, Keith.  I'm Ray Succre, live in Coos Bay, Oregon, and have been writing daily for about 12 years.  I began sending out to publications in August of 2004 and am now beginning to see some fruition from it.  I love to write, most so in poetry, and have volumes of it under my belt, as I just can't seem to stop working on my craft in general.  There's also a poetical fugue theory floating around the internet that I wrote a couple of years ago.  I think Kunst Der Fuge still has it posted from their site.  Just about everything you would want to know about my work and I can be found at http://raysuccre.blogspot, and I have an online journal that I haven't updated in a short while (my wife and I are in the process of moving across town with our newborn), at http://raysuccre2.blogspot.com.


Well, that's about it for an introduction.  It's late and I'm tired.  I look forward to meeting everyone here (which shouldn't be difficult-  I think there are three of us so far), and I am pleased to join.


-Ray



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Keith,


Thanks for the invite.  I'll jump right in with two poems from my re-visioning of American history entitled The American Cantos.


Sincerely,
Michael Ceraolo


Canto XXIV


 


The Reconstruction era has long been subject to


the bias of blatant racism in historiography:


being described as The Tragic Era because of


the fact of a brief black ascendancy,


                                                            and


the use of certain terms as pejoratives


when they shouldn’t have been such,


and the use of other terms as compliments


when they shouldn’t have been such either


 


( definitions as they should read:


 


carpetbaggers- Northerners who moved to the South,


some for noble motives, some for less than noble ones,


as has ever been the mix that animated American mobility


 


scalawags- Southerners who had never been treasonous,


or, if they had, were sincerely repentant for their actions


 


planters- people who had never actually planted anything


except the idea that they were entitled to reside in idleness


by coercing, under cover of law, the labor of others


 


Redeemers- those who redeemed the South from democracy)


 


And the first thing that needed reconstructing


was the image of the black that was held by whites


And they changed this image first by serving


the approaching Union Armies as laborers and spies,


abandoning the plantations the first chance they got


“The Negroes of the South have been in sympathy with us from the beginning,


and have always hailed the approach of our flag


with the wildest demonstrations of joy”


                                                                 And,


the soldiers soon discovered,


“Dishonesty and indolence . . .were the creation of slavery”


and the Negroes were soon permitted


to serve as soldiers,


                                 and further revelations were to occur


“The Negro is a man, a soldier, a hero”


                                                                And


soon the war was over and the real work begun


“Our little sovereignties and Feudal arrangements


are all leveled to the ground”


                                                but


that wouldn’t stop Southerners from trying


to re-create the defeated past


 


“Treason must be made odious”


                                                     but


when it was time to put up or shut up,


the government shut up


                                        Apparently


the only requirement for reinstatement


was that you had to have been against secession


at some point in your life,


                                          even


if it was only in a dream known only to you,


for even some Confederate generals


were permitted to resume officeholding


And the result of such a blunder was the Black Codes


“Their whole thought and time will be given to plans


for getting things back as near to slavery as possible”


the pass system and curfews,


prohibition from any job except farmer or servant,


vague vagrancy laws that allowed courts to compel labor,


forced false apprenticeships for ‘orphans’


including many who were adults


(and many more who were slavery orphans)


And violence, violence, violence


“Lawlessness and violence filled the land,


and terror stalked abroad by day,


and it burned and murdered by night”


“Lawlessness was its inheritance,


and the red splotch of violence its birthmark”


“Never threaten a man individually


If he deserves to be threatened,


the necessities of the times require that he should die”


“Murder is considered one of their inalienable state rights”


 


And before during and after Federal ‘protection’


were such scenes:


 


46 blacks and two whites killed


and hundreds of homes, businesses, and schools burned


in the Memphis police riot


in May 1866;


 


34 blacks and 3 white Radicals killed


outside the hall housing the constitutional convention


in New Orleans July 1866;


 


200 blacks killed in


St. Landry Parish Louisiana


by a marauding mob in 1868;


 


1000 murdered in Texas,


with no one ever convicted for any of those crimes;


 


the ‘Christians’ consecrating a holy day


by killing 70 blacks and 2 whites


in Colfax Louisiana on


Easter Sunday April 1873


 


and the uncounted thousands and thousands


killed for being prosperous against all odds,


or for trying to exercise their right to vote,


or for no reason other than their color;


 


And even the allegedly copious corruption


of the Reconstruction South


is just one more instance


of inequality of opportunity:


the small sums swiped pale in comparison


to the Tweed Ring et al


 


 


 


So let’s salute


Hiram Revels,


                          Blanche Bruce,


                                                     P.B.S. Pinchback,


Robert Smalls,


Robert Elliott,


and the numerous other officeholders


and ordinary citizens black and white


who made America,


                                 for a brief shining moment,


attempt to live up to its professed ideals


 


 


Canto XXV


 


Article Four:


“guarantee to every State in this Union


a Republican Form of Government”,


                                                             with


no specifics about how this mandate might be made to happen;


otherwise, there is a seemingly strange silence


in our secular Bible


about the right to vote


                                     Actually,
at the time of creation the common sentiment
was that the vote was
“a darling privilege of free men”
                                                      and should be


“extended as far as considerations of safety and order will permit”


The poor, it was believed by the beloved Founders, had
“no will of their own”
 and thus would be at the mercy of the rich,
                                                                      or, conversely,


that they had too much will of their own,
                                                                   that


“an immediate revolution would ensue”


And a strange silence about these contradictory strains
carries over to the teaching of history,


where it is generally implied,


                                                if not


explicitly stated,


                             that


the history of voting rights has been one long straight road


to the ‘universal suffrage’ of today


                                                            Well, not exactly


The tale has been more like a tide:


sometimes it comes in toward universal suffrage,


“The course of things in this country


is for the extension,


                                and


not the restriction of popular rights”


other times it goes out far away from it:


 


property requirements are dropped,


                                                           gradually,


but taxpaying requirements are put in place


and pauper exclusions are pushed


and poll taxes are implemented,


the poll tax not being outlawed
until the nineteen sixties;


 


the Fifteenth Amendment enfranchises blacks


(for a very short time only in the South),


(“Discrimination! 
Why that is precisely what we propose”


said a future Senator)


but Asians and Native Americans


are disenfranchised formally for far longer;


 


the secret ballot comes into play as a de facto way


to disenfranchise the illiterate and the immigrant


after more formal barriers lose favor;  


“the theory of the educational test


is that it furnishes an indirect method


of excluding those who are undesirable,


not merely because of their illiteracy


but for other reasons”


and all who would exclude did not have enumerate


 


women gain the vote,
                                   nationwide,


only one hundred thirty years


after the founding of the country;


 


                                                       then,


only ninety-five years after the passage


of the Fifteenth Amendment,


blacks are re-enfranchised;


 


and then eighteen-year olds are enfranchised


in the early nineteen seventies;


 


But there are still residency requirements
and registration hoops to jump through,


                                                           and


periodic purgings by those in power


of people who don’t vote during a specified slice of time


And there are the deliberate disqualifications


of those who are qualified,


as witnessed in the coup of 2000


 


Vigilance, not complacency,


must be eternal


-Michael Ceraolo



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Michael-


Honestly, I think you've undertaken a vast and complicated project, and I think you've definitely got it under good management.  The possibilities are huge, and probably give you a wide range of things to write on.  I found these two cantos intriguing, in that your language is unexpected and the way you phase into and out of definition, dialogue, stylization... well, it's unique and hooked me straight on.  There's range all over this work and it has me wanting to read more of it. 


I love an ambitious work.  Obviously, so do you.


I'd say keep writing it, but I'm sure you have and will.


 


Also, for the rest of the group, I wanted to add that I have a dropbox of publications on my blogsite that lists a very large number of publications for anyone looking for poetry markets.  Most can be found in a new Poet's Market, though some are strictly underground, smaller press, and a few are upstarts I know the editor's of.  It's the 'Click for Publisher Links' box on my main page:  http://raysuccre.blogspot.com.  I update the dropbox about every 3-4 months, and will be updating it again in about a week.


 


-Ray



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Ray,


Thanks for the praise of the American Cantos.  If/when they get published in book form I'll drop you a line.


Best,


Michael



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Hello everyone, my name is Jack P. Lowe.  I'm a fiction writer/poet working out of the Chicago area.  I've been writing for 23 years, publishing in the small press (off & on) for 10 years.  I write as much as i can, but I'm a slow worker---I envy the prolific.  There are lots of good small press magazines out there publishing poems and stories, but I believe the Internet is the most fertile forum/marketplace, which is why I like endeavors like this.  What a terrific source for writers!  I hope to be a frequent visitor. 


For anyone interested in my work, please see my blog, "Books By Jack Phillips Lowe" at http://jackphillipslowe.blogspot.com  I'd also appreciate any (constructive) feedback forum members would be willing to provide. 


Thanks.



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Haven't had a chance to read any of it yet, but I liked your blog setup.  Also, I was trying to remember where I'd heard your name before (it sounded familiar to me), and I think I figured it out:  I'm also a member over at the First Step Press Yahoo! group and Laura Stamps is a member.  I think she did an interview with you some time back.  I think that's where I recognize the name, but it could be from somewhere else.


Also, you mention Ralphy over at Lucid Moon on your blog.  I've been checking in at that site for some time now, and find it a fascinating place.  The entire world Ralph Haselmann Jr. has created at that site is truly personal and heartfelt.  I've been thinking of submitting for awhile now, but haven't decided on the right pieces yet.


Also, in regards to prolificism, Big Walt (Whitman) wrote less than a hundred poems in his entire, long lifetime.  He just kept revising until, ultimately, he'd revised himself into history as one of the beacons of American poetry.  So by all means, take your time (rushed work is always so cagey, anyway).


-Ray



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Not sure where else to post this, though for now, here is as good a place as any.


Michael, I was just reading through Talvipäivänseisaus Specials #8, which arrived in my mail today and I noticed some of your American Cantos work in there.  Great read.  It's cool to see you around in the presses.  I'm only just now beginning to recognize anyone when I get a cc in the mail (Simon Perchik is one step ahead of me wherever I publish-  I can't shake the guy).  Just wanted to let you know I liked your contribution and look forward to seeing more of your cantos.


 


-Ray


 


 



 



-- Edited by Ray Succre at 00:31, 2005-07-29

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